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m.croche

TSR implores: "While I'm on the topic of stupid shit that people say, can the world wake up once and for all and stop calling John Adams a minimalist?"

Better yet, stop using the term altogether. Does TSR know of a single composer who likes being referred to as a "minimalist"?

9/10s of the "ist" adjectives are used loosely, as a substitute for actual thought. Taxonomy, and especially specious taxonomy, is not musical criticism. See Kyle Gann (inventor of the miserable locution 'post-minimalist').

"Ist"s are useful when referring to adherents of concrete manifestos (Dadaist, Futurist, Theosophist). The style history which undergirds most adjectival "ists" however - and we can expand this list to include such dubious terms as medieval, Renaissance, baroque, classic, romantic, and modern - is thoroughly muddled, as a moment's reflection on any of these terms will demonstrate. They should be used with great caution.

What's funny is that Björk was a trained flutist who went to an academy for child musical prodigies until she was like 14 or 15. From Björk's distaste for CLASSICAL classical music [she loves Stockhausen and Cage and Monk], she probably wouldn't be moving at all if she were obliged to play the violin or flute for anything pre-1920, especially Beethoven. But I think I get your meaning, anyhow ;)

Mme. Grisi Pasta

What's funny is that Björk was a trained flutist who went to an academy for child musical prodigies until she was like 14 or 15. From Björk's distaste for CLASSICAL classical music [she loves Stockhausen and Cage and Monk], she probably wouldn't be moving at all if she were obliged to play the violin or flute for anything pre-1920, especially Beethoven. But I think I get your meaning, anyhow ;)

Marcus Maroney

M. Croche - Michael Nyman uses "minimalist" to refer to his own music and music of some other composers. I don't think he would call himself that if he didn't like it. Just a guess, so, there ya go.

Marcus (not necessarily a fan of Nyman or the term "minimalist" - just stating a fact!)

m.croche

Good catch, Marcus. I hope Texas is treating you well.

In this respect, Nyman - who may well have been the first to apply the term to music - resembles the "Dadaist" and "Futurist" examples noted above. He coins the term, defines the doctrine, and lives by the creed. His application of the term to others has been contested, not least by the composers themselves.

So "minimalism" is useful in this narrow, doctrinal sense; it is much less so as a concept in style history. (In the same spirit, if Kyle Gann wants to call himself a post-minimalist, I suppose that's all in order. But as a style-critical term it is still a monstrosity.)

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